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I am curious as to why these SMARTCARs never work. It's not just this VA. Any VA for which I have ever flown has the same issue. You file the report and there is some kind of error. I use X-Plane so I am not able to use the advanced one we have. But if I submit one flight out of ten and it goes through, it's a good day.

 

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This does not have 100% to do with your post. But in FSX, smartCARS does not properly measure landing rates, and the chief programmer over at TFDi has admitted that smartCARS needs to be tweaked in more than one way.

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I agree that the landing rates for smartCARS is a little high.  I am hitting about 250-400 and I know I'm a little softer than that.  I have had very good sessions with filing reports.  It works every time.  I was getting an error a couple of times about a week ago but the report still filed ok.  In general, very happy with smartCARS.  I am running X-Plane 11, Flight Factor A320, World Traffic 3, Pilot 2 ATC, when I am not online.  Don't fly online often but plan on doing a little more online this summer.

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On 6/7/2018 at 8:39 AM, DAL2024 Tom Pletzke said:

I agree that the landing rates for smartCARS is a little high.  I am hitting about 250-400 and I know I'm a little softer than that.  I have had very good sessions with filing reports.  It works every time.  I was getting an error a couple of times about a week ago but the report still filed ok.  In general, very happy with smartCARS.  I am running X-Plane 11, Flight Factor A320, World Traffic 3, Pilot 2 ATC, when I am not online.  Don't fly online often but plan on doing a little more online this summer.

The best way to prove that smartCARS requires a complete re-working of their (TFDi) code that measures landing rates is to do this:

If possible, take 3 payware airplanes and fly them in severe clear weather and no wind. Pick 1 airport that is relatively close to your FlyDeltaVirtual hub so that you can see the results much quicker in smartCARS. Just make sure that you are landing at an airport that has a CAT-III runway. Let the autopilot autoland in each of the 3 airplanes. So in my case it is PMDG 737NGX, TFDi 717, and PMDG 777. What you will find is that smartCARS landing rates are almost the same in the individual airplanes.

So in my case I have the following measurements:

PMDG 737NGX: smartCARS registers landings between -97 and -152 fpm every time, even with real world live weather.

PMDG 777: Unbelievably smooth landings every time, but it registers between -215 and -252 fpm. You can do a replay, or live, and watch the 3 sets of trucks settle onto the runway 1 pair at a time.

TFDi 717: The smoothest autolands out of any plane I have ever owned. Beginning at 5 feet AGL, I can literally count each individual foot at 2 to 4 seconds per foot above the runway, and sometimes it stays at 0 feet AGL and you barely feel the plane is on the runway. Yet smartCARS registers it at numbers between -268 and -352 fpm on average every time.

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On 6/9/2018 at 3:48 PM, Jason Lohrenz said:

Have you tried using Delta Sky Club at the same time as SmartCARS to see what it reports for landing rate?

As per the S.O.P., no duel connections are allowed.

SmartCARS and the Delta SkyClub both utilize SimConnect and/or FSUIPC, which reports your Landing Rate regardless of what client you use.

I recommend that if you want to test this, download the application Landing Rate Monitor, which is available here ------------> http://lk2.in/gM

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I can land the PMDG 777 manually and it will say that I bounced 3 times. The problem with that is that I do not bounce. What is actually being measured in the 777's case when you make a very smooth landing is the 3 reports of -7 fpm, -5 fpm, and -3 fpm when the B777's individual trucks are touching down onto the pavement. The 777 has 6 pairs of trucks, divided by 2 and you get 3, 1 pair of trucks from both main struts touching down at the same time as with a smooth landing the roll factor being 0.

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