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DAL1845 Jesse Kovacs

Fake VA?

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I’m not sure. We are real. 230 pilots and growing every minute.

 

Very true...but not quite the point. I guess what's the deal between the two VAs? It this a transition form the old completely (ie will all pilots jump over) or is this a new delta virtual that's poaching pilots off the old? And perhaps poaching isn't the best word, but it makes the point.

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This is not a transition, this is a new VA. The VA was created because the Owner and Founder of the other VA left everyone of you. He did not respond for over two months to his own staff. If that's the kind of service you expect, then that's the VA for you. If you like a staff that answers questions and makes improvements on a daily basis, then this is the VA for you. We did recruit some pilots from the other VA because we thought they would be interested in something better. If recruiting is poaching, I guess we are guilty. In the end, you have a choice. Fly with them, us, or both. It's really that simple.

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This is not a transition, this is a new VA. The VA was created because the Owner and Founder of the other VA left everyone of you. He did not respond for over two months to his own staff. If that's the kind of service you expect, then that's the VA for you. If you like a staff that answers questions and makes improvements on a daily basis, then this is the VA for you. We did recruit some pilots from the other VA because we thought they would be interested in something better. If recruiting is poaching, I guess we are guilty. In the end, you have a choice. Fly with them, us, or both. It's really that simple.

 

Awesome. Glad to be a part of it if that's the case!

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This is not a transition, this is a new VA. The VA was created because the Owner and Founder of the other VA left everyone of you. He did not respond for over two months to his own staff. If that's the kind of service you expect, then that's the VA for you. If you like a staff that answers questions and makes improvements on a daily basis, then this is the VA for you. We did recruit some pilots from the other VA because we thought they would be interested in something better. If recruiting is poaching, I guess we are guilty. In the end, you have a choice. Fly with them, us, or both. It's really that simple.

 

Ok, thanks for the clarification, Mark. I guess you guys must have woke him up, because now he's sending out emails trying to discredit you guys. In any event, happy to be here!

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Glad to have you here Jesse. I remember we go back to another VA we were both staff on. I’ve received a few of the emails myself, like 25 of them. When the other VA website went down last week, we didn’t know what to think, so we opened this one up. I know we may have made a few mistakes, but you guys have the full support of a very fine staff here. That’s what you all deserve.

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I got a bunch of emails, too. I gave up on deltavirtual.org a couple months ago for reasons already mentioned. No one communicated but for a small handful of people. But more strangely, I met a girl who flew for the va on the forum,. I noticed she was posting about how bad the management was and how they didn't communicate or maintain the website, etc. This girl and I had been having discussions on the airline forum basically about how the VA sucked and we wanted to make a new va. After getting to know her, we began corresponding about regular topics using our personal emails. Her email said whatever her name was (I can't recall) @gmail.com or whatever, and then next to this, it said "founder of deltavirtual.org". I was of the understanding that a guy named Jay Roberts was the founder/ceo of deltavirtual.org.


I wrote her back asking wth? I thought Jay Roberts was the founder. She wrote me back calling me paranoid and other things. I just thought it was BS and something was rotten in Denmark, so to speak. I never flew for them again. I just didn't appreciate being deceived or tricked, etc. She never did explain herself, so I bailed and didn't talk to her again. Very weird.


Anyway, glad to see this new VA and I am glad to be here. I'll be racking up a ton of hours, as usual.


Andrew Grey

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Andrew, we are glad to have you here with us. I believe the pilot you are referring to is Mackenzie. I know her from another VA as well. I believe what you were seeing from the other VA, is anytime you used the PM in the old site forum, Your email went to that person plus Jay Roberts. I noticed the same thing when I PM’d someone over there. I felt it was very strange that he would also be viewing a conversation that I thought was in private.

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Yeah, that's her. This was sent from her mindspring.com email account to my gmail account.


It said something like "Sent from [email protected] " at the top of her email (I am guessing, this is not her actual name she was using, but very similar). It was entirely separate from the VA forum and communications.


I just found it pretty strange and I still kinda wonder what it was all about.


AG

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I 100% agree with all you guys. I came back recently and have been flying more with XP11, and when I came back, it still showed me as active, but just based off their forum being unmoderated and a mess (posts about free medication, insurance, etc) from obvious bots and not even 1 mod has the time to lock it down and delete them, then people asking legitimate questions on how to do something didn't have any responses.


While their may be controversy, to me I'm not taking anyone sides, I'm just going where I feel more welcomed and seems to have a staff of people with a head on their shoulders.



That being said, I do have 1 question. I cannot find anywhere how to join the discord? I seen a few places that their is a discord that people hang out in, but cannot for the life of me find it here, on the pilot page, or on ACARs. Could someone link it or send it to me please?


I can see if keeping it somewhat private to keep away trolls and such (especially with things still being pretty warm), but maybe put it in a pilot only section of the forum's or have it sent with our welcome email or something?


Thanks! Everything else looks great and I'm looking forward to hitting the skies!

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